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I liked Yancy's comment: "It's refreshing to see more technology that fosters organic art & techniques." I myself am honest when I say that technology intiminates me. I'm a bit old-fashioned. On the same token that doesn't mean that I am not open-minded to digital art or will ever learn it. I recognize its potential as different than pre-tech art, you can't really compare them even,as they're totally different, but certainly not less or more than the other. There was a day when I thought I would never say that. With the paintbrush camera, I agree that it promotes a little more tactile, impulsive and instant effect than even with a computer program such as photoshop. I get discouraged with using the programs because of all the rules and formalities that one still has to learn and undergo in order to produce an image, but then again, it's really no different - you still have to learn the old techniques! I'm sure if I just actually would get off my lazy butt and teach myself these programs I wouldn't feel intiminated. People who are used to computers probably would say the same thing about anything pre-technology. The "instant " quality that can be achieved by just touching the old-fashioned canvas with the old-fashioned brush can be simulated with the camerabrush as well, as much as that may seem contrived . I also agree that the product needs further developement and exploration. The demo gives only th obvious uses for the camerabrush. It's not exactley my bowl of pretzels, as I have a fetish for "real" materials, but I am refreshed to see technology made simpler and made within the "flavour" of pre-tech processes.

It is totally cool and would be great in a school setting. Imagine letting children paint with patterns they find. There are so many possibilities for this tool. As a teacher I can't wait until it actually exists for purchase.

dude, a psychedelic pastry brush.....no really....

This, I've noticed, is the only way arguments ever happen on Drawn!:

"This is art." "No it's not, it's stupid!"

or:

"This is stupid." "No it's not, it's art!"

Children are immune to new things mainly because EVERYTHING is new to them. Of course they are going to be more open to things such as the I/O brush. But don't forget that kids have a short attention span and will move on to the next new fun thing, just like adults.

ALSO, from my observations, I've found that kids, after playing with a new toy, seem to get more fun out of playing with the box that the toy came in.

Something to be said for the simple things in life: you can never replace the pencil on paper, the paint on canvas.

>complaining about complaining, fine -

Relief washes over me ;)

>but you never answered WHERE DOES IT PAIN ON ? HOW IS IT SAVED ? IS >IT PRINT RESOLUTION, OR WHAT ?

So what you mean to say is that you didn't actually bother to read the page before deciding the whole thing was crap? :)

http://web.media.mit.edu/~kimiko/iobrush/

Try the pdfs.

But, ok, I'll even read it out loud for you:

>WHERE DOES IT PAIN ON ?

"For the canvas, we currently use a large Wacom Cintiq screen with a built-in graphics tablet. The coil of the Wacom pen tip is embedded inside the I/O Brush’s tip to allow the system to detect the presence or absence of the brush on the canvas."

>HOW IS IT SAVED ?

I cannot resist: "It is all a bit technical" :). Now tell me, why should saving be a problem? You don't have a problem saving what you do in photoshop with a wacom pen/tablet do you? Apparently the software in question even records a few frames (since the thing allows for motion.) I don't know in what format it is saved but that is pretty irrelevant, hey, it's pixels in memory, you can convert them to whatever you want!

>IT PRINT RESOLUTION, OR WHAT

Dunno. But hey, It's a prototype! I think it doesn't even come with the kitchen sink yet. If you want print resolution I'm sure you can get a better canvas, or a bigger one. And people do make a lot of art these days that is not print resolution, and instead is supposed to be seen on a screen. Hey, some paintings actually are not supposed to be seen from the distance that allows your nose to rub up against the impasto :)

>blah blah blah art for art sake blah blah practical use but what does this >thing really do ? you grab a color, then paint with it, then what ?

Oil painting. blah, blah, art for art's sake, you grab some colour out of the tube then paint with it, then what?

You tell me. Isn't that an artist's job? :)

All your arguments apply equally well to past prototypes that have proven their value in the present. Like light-pens and oil paints. That should give you warning that what you are experiencing is possibly just the natural human tendency for being suspicious of what is new. Children seem immune to that, but we all only get worse with age...

Oh well, I suppose I should count myself lucky that we didn't get the obligatory "this will render oil painting obsolete!" commentary ;)
(did all of those perish in the dot-com crash? :) )
(is this exagerated scepticism its exact opposite? )

id like to point out, since im quoted by jon morris
my comment about it being a party favor
has nothing to do with a fear of progress or technology effecting art
it is based on the idea that
in my world, the only people i could see getting really excited about it
are the same people that love playing pictionary at parties.

I think the biggest thing about this (and overlooked by all the submitters so far) is not the print applications, but the fact that you can PAINT with VIDEO! In this day and age where cold hard CGI rendering seemingly rules supreme, it's refreshing to see more technology that fosters organic art and techniques. This is going be Richard Linklater "Waking Life" big.

Y'know, I'm not scared of this product at all. I have no ill will towards it. No maliciousness or anything of that sort. I just find that when you have to have a separate apparatus in order to project on -- the screen, am I right? -- it becomes labored and impractical. For the time being, of course. Who's to say what may happen for the I/O Brush in the next 5 years?

Bit in the ass? Doubt it. This product is not on the same level as the computer. And I like my crow well done, thankyouverymuch.

After reading more up on it and viewing some of the capabilities, I do enjoy the fact that the brush opens the door of creatvity for children. And I can't poo-poo on anything that does that.

complaining about complaining, fine -

but you never answered WHERE DOES IT PAIN ON ? HOW IS IT SAVED ? IS IT PRINT RESOLUTION, OR WHAT ?

blah blah blah art for art sake blah blah practical use but what does this thing really do ? you grab a color, then paint with it, then what ?

dany

Actually, I think it's pretty neat. As for practical applications - what practical application does ANY art have? I think this is a tool that does something entirely new, and opens a door to some really visionary artist to do something really innovative with it. Sometimes art is for art's sake. It's just neat and totally unique - isn't that enough? (Though I think it's more likely that VW will do some really funny ad with it, but whatever.)

I think it's also possible that it's the combination of art for art's sake + MIT labs that offends people, not the idea that we are all easily threatened luddites. I think it may beg the question in some people that THIS is what our best minds are working on, when there are so many other problems in the world that we need our best minds solving, and which technology can fix or alleviate. That said, I think people would have forgotten to be offended if it looked like something they could use or make $$ with (me included).

"I’m sure that’d be amusing for a whole hour."

"it struck me that it had zero practicle applications outside of being a party favor"

"I agree that it’s interesting, but yeah, I can’t see any real uses other then a demonstration of “how cool technology is”."

"Funny devise =) But…I agree… I can’t see any real uses other then a demonstration :/"

"There is no real potential with this product. "

"its a party trick device, plain and simple."

Dear You Guys Who Said That Stuff,

I like when artists decide that it's the tool and not the artist who makes art. It gives me a sinister tingle of fatality. This is because I'm old enough to have gone to college at a time when many of my professors and fellow students alike were furiously contemptous of anyone who proposed that you could use a *gasp* computer to make art! Ah yes, oh the folly...

Anyway, you're all aiming to get seriously bit in the ass, hoist on your own petard, and furthermore stuffed to the gills on hat, crow and your own words.

PS - Ha ha.

-Jon

I like it :P
I'm sure it would be a funny toy !!!

It may or may not be a "party trick", but all the angry attacks on it lead me to think that it touches some conservative nerves on some people. Many useful innovations arise from what is at first a mere useless party trick.

Digital painting tools did not start with full-blown photoshop, much less Fractaldesign's (I refuse to call it "Corel's") Painter, you know? It was more like "MSPaint", only worse. I was around when people like you were saying that the whole digital painting thing was a toy for kids. Yet many of you now make your living out of photoshop et al., which wouldn't be here but for those "toys".

Yes, right now it seems like a toy. Have you all forgotten how to play? Great way to go about art, then. People who refuse to play should just go off and airbrush coke bottles all day long for a month to please the suits. All high-def and real high-quality-like, of course.:P

It's fun. Smile!

Does anyone know the name and artist of the background music?

no, ward got it right - where exactly is it painting ?

on a screen ? is it just a video image, then ? or are they using it in an application, like photoshop ?

then how is it better than the clone stamp ? the brush does only what a scanner or a digital camera does.

sure you could use it to make web page templates or something - but is it a quality save ? - and what is it's resolition ? i bet its 72. dpi. and that does not really cut it.

can it make a real brush stroke, like a smear of india ink ? why is it better than...

oh forget it. its a party trick device, plain and simple.

There is no real potential with this product. It's very limited to what a real artist could do with it. What you saw in the video is the extent of what you'll get out of the thing. What surface do they use to "paint" on? How conducive can this be for any real application?

I swear by the end of the video I expected the Ronco logo to pop up.

Cool! How much is it and where can I buy it? (Ha ha ha. No doubt MIT hasn't even moved into the licensing and production stage.) As osmanjaro said, there is real potential for this tool as a Photoshop plug-in in the hands of a trained artist. Just having the tactile familiarity of a brush gives an advantage over even a Wacom tablet. And a product designer could give this brush/camera a sleeker, more efficient design. I certainly see some web design ideas in the ability to capture stills and/or motion. I think that a second demonstation is in order, this time with a fully-conceived composition and not just random sqiuggles.

Funny devise =) But...I agree... I can’t see any real uses other then a demonstration :/

The people that have just posted obviously don't see the real potential in this. The bristles for example determine the distance and pressure of the stroke. How else is this function possible.
I feel this is a new type of tool, similar to the USB microscope.

The people that have just posted obviously don't see the real potential in this. The bristles for example determine the distance and pressure of the stroke. How else is this function possible.
I feel this is a new type of tool, similar to the USB microscope.

Finally, I can paint a whole tunnel on a brick wall with a few brush strokes! Now I'll really show that roadrunner what-for!

Oh I totally agree. But a fun toy at parties, I'm sure.

I agree that it's interesting, but yeah, I can't see any real uses other then a demonstration of "how cool technology is". Also, why does it have real brush bristles? Just for tactility's sake?

i saw that a week ago.. and after watching the video three times, at first amazed
it struck me that it had zero practicle applications outside of being a party favor

I'm sure that'd be amusing for a whole hour.