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God Bless NPR, maybe we can find a link to the streaming audio of that show? that would rule, turbosteamer!

God Bless NPR, maybe we can find a link to the streaming audio of that show? that would rule, turbosteamer!

Most of those cartoons are Democrat party propaganda/liberal mainstream-media, head-in-the-sand, knee-jerk interpretations of news events.
Why-oh-why introduce politics into Drawn? If you’re going to introduce politics into Drawn then at least take a neutral view on it – and by that I mean don’t just assume that everyone thinks that NPR is a neutral source of news and editorial opinion. They’re not.
Drawn is a fantastic blog – but please do not start putting political cartoons up in your posts and assume that readers won’t react to their content. If you keep comments open for stuff like this and you get large enough traffic you will start to suffer from flame wars and may end up removing comments altogether if it gets too acrimonious, which would be a shame considering all the other stuff you put up here.

Most of those cartoons are Democrat party propaganda/liberal mainstream-media, head-in-the-sand, knee-jerk interpretations of news events.
Why-oh-why introduce politics into Drawn? If you’re going to introduce politics into Drawn then at least take a neutral view on it – and by that I mean don’t just assume that everyone thinks that NPR is a neutral source of news and editorial opinion. They’re not.
Drawn is a fantastic blog – but please do not start putting political cartoons up in your posts and assume that readers won’t react to their content. If you keep comments open for stuff like this and you get large enough traffic you will start to suffer from flame wars and may end up removing comments altogether if it gets too acrimonious, which would be a shame considering all the other stuff you put up here.

mart – get real! This is an illustration blog, and political cartoons are just as valid. Just because they happen to illustrate an opinion you don’t happen to agree with doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be seen.

I enjoy reading Drawn as it introduces me to a range of illustration (including American political cartoons) that I wouldn’t otherwise get a chance to see.

And if you disagree – well, why don’t you go and draw your own?

mart – get real! This is an illustration blog, and political cartoons are just as valid. Just because they happen to illustrate an opinion you don’t happen to agree with doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be seen.

I enjoy reading Drawn as it introduces me to a range of illustration (including American political cartoons) that I wouldn’t otherwise get a chance to see.

And if you disagree – well, why don’t you go and draw your own?

Ah, politics.

I’m digging how mart dismisses te works as “Democrat party propaganda/liberal mainstream-media, head-in-the-sand, knee-jerk interpretations of news events.” THAT’S a way to judge a WORK.

As a former political cartoonist myself, you can’t avoid the “political,”, but you can simply try to bring the idea across as best as you can. The fact that they were oh-so-obviously “propganda” should be a testament to their simplicity and execution.

And I was with Alex until the “if you don’t like it, draw your own.” I get your point, but that’s what people do. Those who can, do. Those who can’t, critique those who can.

Ah, politics.

I’m digging how mart dismisses te works as “Democrat party propaganda/liberal mainstream-media, head-in-the-sand, knee-jerk interpretations of news events.” THAT’S a way to judge a WORK.

As a former political cartoonist myself, you can’t avoid the “political,”, but you can simply try to bring the idea across as best as you can. The fact that they were oh-so-obviously “propganda” should be a testament to their simplicity and execution.

And I was with Alex until the “if you don’t like it, draw your own.” I get your point, but that’s what people do. Those who can, do. Those who can’t, critique those who can.

If Drawn had perhaps linked to a half-decent gallery of political cartoons I guess I might feel different. But the quality of the illustrations (not to mention the sub-standard scans of some of the examples) is nothing remarkable at all, and these are not up to the standard of links Drawn usually points to. That only serves to make me for one imagine that the underlying anti-Bush political sentiment is something the original poster has no problem with, even if it is inflammatory to someone like me who doesn’t toe that line.
For better examples of political cartoons go to Cagle:
http://cagle.msnbc.com/politicalcartoons/
or better still, go to the best non-political cartoons you’ll probably find on the web at the New Yorker’s Cartoon bank:
http://www.cartoonbank.com/index.asp

If Drawn had perhaps linked to a half-decent gallery of political cartoons I guess I might feel different. But the quality of the illustrations (not to mention the sub-standard scans of some of the examples) is nothing remarkable at all, and these are not up to the standard of links Drawn usually points to. That only serves to make me for one imagine that the underlying anti-Bush political sentiment is something the original poster has no problem with, even if it is inflammatory to someone like me who doesn’t toe that line.
For better examples of political cartoons go to Cagle:
http://cagle.msnbc.com/politicalcartoons/
or better still, go to the best non-political cartoons you’ll probably find on the web at the New Yorker’s Cartoon bank:
http://www.cartoonbank.com/index.asp

Thank you for that response. I must agree; the scans are substandard; I guess my political leanings colored me not as offended by their inclusion. That is my fault, and one I can admit and regret.

Good art is good art, politically charged and motivated or not. Damn the New Yorker, though. I am still trying to resist the urge to buy one of their collections…

Thank you for that response. I must agree; the scans are substandard; I guess my political leanings colored me not as offended by their inclusion. That is my fault, and one I can admit and regret.

Good art is good art, politically charged and motivated or not. Damn the New Yorker, though. I am still trying to resist the urge to buy one of their collections…

TRoyal: thanks for the civil response. 99.9 percent of the time this sort of discussion veers off into a political flame war. My only intention in making these points is that the quality of the link was below Drawn’s usual standard and that although it’s their blog and their right to say whatever they want they run the risk of alienating people with the way the politically charged link was presented.

TRoyal: thanks for the civil response. 99.9 percent of the time this sort of discussion veers off into a political flame war. My only intention in making these points is that the quality of the link was below Drawn’s usual standard and that although it’s their blog and their right to say whatever they want they run the risk of alienating people with the way the politically charged link was presented.

Mart, Drawn! has no political agenda (I’ve even turned away advertisers that were too politically bent). You may not agree with the politics of Mike Luckovich or Mike Peters, but their cartoons won them both Pulitzers for editorial cartooning, so I think an interview with them is more than worthy of a link.

Mart, Drawn! has no political agenda (I’ve even turned away advertisers that were too politically bent). You may not agree with the politics of Mike Luckovich or Mike Peters, but their cartoons won them both Pulitzers for editorial cartooning, so I think an interview with them is more than worthy of a link.

I’ve met Mr. Luckovich here in Chicago, presenting a few of his cartoons at a seminar. I love his work, and his style translates very well to the disappearing space of the editorial cartoon in today’s newspapers.
While I may be different than some in political leanings, we can agree that the reproductions of his work as presented in the link blows. It looks ike a leaflet photocopied fifty or so times. If his stuff was at Caple, I would’ve posted that there to draw better attention to the work itself. The interview was good.
It’s easier to denigrate the product when the wrapper isn’t up to usual standard; Mart and I agree on that. He disagrees on an ideological basis; I on the basis of the content being up to usual standard.

I’ve met Mr. Luckovich here in Chicago, presenting a few of his cartoons at a seminar. I love his work, and his style translates very well to the disappearing space of the editorial cartoon in today’s newspapers.
While I may be different than some in political leanings, we can agree that the reproductions of his work as presented in the link blows. It looks ike a leaflet photocopied fifty or so times. If his stuff was at Caple, I would’ve posted that there to draw better attention to the work itself. The interview was good.
It’s easier to denigrate the product when the wrapper isn’t up to usual standard; Mart and I agree on that. He disagrees on an ideological basis; I on the basis of the content being up to usual standard.

Luckovich won in 1995, and if you look at the examples at pulitzer.com maybe you’ll be as underwhelmed as I was – not just by the illustration skills but by the “humor”:
http://www.pulitzer.org/year/1995/editorial-cartooning/works/

Peters won 24 years ago in 1981. His illustration style is more interesting, with much better compositions.

If you can stomach political cartoons from the other side of the fence then these people serve up about the best out there:
http://www.coxandforkum.com/

and the caricatures by Cox are pretty good.

Luckovich won in 1995, and if you look at the examples at pulitzer.com maybe you’ll be as underwhelmed as I was – not just by the illustration skills but by the “humor”:
http://www.pulitzer.org/year/1995/editorial-cartooning/works/

Peters won 24 years ago in 1981. His illustration style is more interesting, with much better compositions.

If you can stomach political cartoons from the other side of the fence then these people serve up about the best out there:
http://www.coxandforkum.com/

and the caricatures by Cox are pretty good.

Wow, for someone who doesn’t want to start a flame war, not many people like being called their art ” Democrat party propaganda/liberal mainstream-media, head-in-the-sand, knee-jerk”..
And then you soften your tone. Geez. Us versus them, huh?

Wow, for someone who doesn’t want to start a flame war, not many people like being called their art ” Democrat party propaganda/liberal mainstream-media, head-in-the-sand, knee-jerk”..
And then you soften your tone. Geez. Us versus them, huh?

[...] At last night’s 2005 Reuben Awards, bestowed by the National Cartoonists Society, editorial cartoonist Mike Luckovich (previously discussed here) won the Reuben Award for Cartoonist of the Year, professional cartooning’s highest honor. [...]